Chapter 12 Adam/Eve
Paula Lieb
English 308J
Summary:
Chapter 12 attempts to explain the relationship between men and women by connecting it to passages found in the Old Testament. He makes connections that with the coming of the first text, the female was devalued, and cast into a specific role. Schlain claims that the stories through out the Bible attempt to give everyone in society a specific purpose, including slaves and women. Slain begins the chapter with the story of creation. Schain claims that in the story of creation, “Yahweh created woman only as an afterthought because Adam could not find a suitable “helpmeet” among the animals.” (Schlain 112). He continues to explain how the woman was created out of Adam’s ribs inferring that a “women’s function in life is to support a man.” (113). Slain continues to explain how the bible portrays the relationship between men in women by telling the story of the forbidden fruit. He explains how the serpent in the story in cast as a villain which cuts off an earlier notion that tied snakes to a symbol of power for Goddesses’ and devalues to women to “property” (114). Schlain explains how this story reversed associating women with life, and dubbed women as the reason for death. Schlain continues by claiming the “Yahmeh branded female curiousity the greatest sin.” (114). which in turn gives males a way to take power over women, with a “legitimate” claim.
Schlain continues to explain how the original sin created by Eve, caused God to punish Israelite nations that still worshiped Goddess’. He claims that Yahweh also performed “destructive miracles” (116) storms, floods etcetera which were meant to discredit any other male God which claimed to have these powers. Yahweh was attempting to establish his status as the only God.
This chapter continues with yet another story of how the Bible sets women at a status below women. Schlain explains that in Hebrew patriarchs there is a story of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. All three of these men married women who could not have children. The men decided to try for children with their handmaids and this was successful for all three men, which is interpreted that females are to blame when a couple can not produce children. Schlain interprets this as taking credit for child birth away from the female and giving it to the male.
The chapter continues by comparing the relationship between man and women to that of Yahweh and Israel. He explains how Yahweh let his chosen people suffer for 430 years before Moses was selected to guide Yahweh’s people to slavery. He makes the connection that Yahweh like a husband was “demanding, controlling, and capricious”(117), while Israel like the wife, was “long suffering, obedient, and loyal.” (117). Furthering the claims to gender roles in society.
Schlain finishes the chapter with the explanation that over time men are encouraged to turn to book instead of women for knowledge. He says “The aleph-bet broke the spirit of women and banished the Goddess.”(119).
Schlain uses strong appeals to pathos in chapter 12 due to his connection with the Old Testament which many people, especially Christians and Jewish people take very seriously. He uses famous biblical stories like the story of creation and the story of the forbidden fruit to draw people in because it is something they are familiar with, and then to get them to feel something, which in many females case would be negative feelings. He goes a good job of stirring up emotions in female readers because it breaks down into simple terms the diminishing of their power in society due to biblical texts. “women’s function in life is to support a man.” (113). This is likely to stir up emotion in many females due to the fact that many females believe that there is equal status between men and women. Schlain had strong appeals to ethos in that the chapter was well written. It made good points and Schlain seems to sincerely believe what he was writing. I feel that the logos was very weak. Schlain claims to get information from archeologists and archaeologists, as well as other “professionals” but fails to mention names, or organizations. He says "Archaeologist have recovered..." (115) but never provides information as to who these archaeologists are. Also his claims made from the bible is all personal interpretation and doesn’t provide good evidence just in that many religions have trouble agreeing on an interpretation of the bible. So what would cause readers to take Schlain’s interpretation as valid?
How do you think women interpret the bible’s message of a women’s role in society today? Should Christian women and men take these stories literally? Do you feel Schlain’s interpretation of these stories are correct? What is women’s role in society if it is not what Schlain claims scriptures say?
Honestly, I do know how many women today give much thought to the Bibles interpretation of women’s roles. Sometimes it may be thought of ancient rules and regulations. Most people aren’t Bible scholars but I think that Christian women and men think that the Bible is true that and that is part of believing and having faith in God. However, throughout the Bible there are many mentors, analogies, and illustrations to get certain points across. Furthermore, I think Schlain does a good job of stating facts like meaning of words and historical evidence to support his interpretation of Biblical stories. But I still am not convinced of Schlain’s theory that written text (including the Bible) “broke the spirit of women and banished the Goddess.” (Schlain 119)
ReplyDeleteGood question. I think the literal interpretation of the bible is one of the main reasons women were/are treated as second class citizens. Turning women into death (eating the apple) instead of life (childbirth) was a major diss to women by religion. The only reason women were put on the earth according to Adam/Eve story is to help men, and Eve screwed it up by eating the forbidden fruit. The most dominant religion on earth basis their creation story on the invention of death because of women. Women's role in society HAS been hindered because of this. IT'S 2010 AND WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE PRIESTS. That's evidence enough.
ReplyDeleteThe Old Testament is a reflection of the writing and beliefs of the Hebrews at that time. Who were obviously sexist. I don't believe that God is either a man or a woman. But it is interesting that no matter what God is we say He. I think it is interesting that there was a She, Wisdom. (Shlain 118) Shlain focuses so much on writing being powerful, it is the knowledge of writing that set men apart from women. But the "knowledge" that is bestowed on man from writing is a female diety. The Jewish men turned away from her and only sought book knowledge. The Goddess is Wisdom, and whether those who wrote the Bible failed to give Her credit, she was still present.
ReplyDeleteI believe that interpretations of the Bible differ on who the interpreter is. Stories from the Bible can be interpreted in many different ways, and depending on if you are sexist or not, you can shape the stories into what you believe they are saying. The Bible is the product of a people whose beliefs were rooted deeply in a patriarchal society, so it is easy to assume that the Bible preaches of ways that devalue women. Certainly, most women of today would not take the Bible literally.
ReplyDeleteI think the bible can be interpreted in many different ways depending on how much you believe in it and follow what the stories say. I do think there are some sexist parts in the bible with the creation of Adam and Eve and putting all the blame on the Eve for eating the apple. But I really never would have thought that of it that way until I read that chapter. I think the whole christian religion looks down on women because we really have no part in it besides for the creation of Jesus.
ReplyDeleteYea I feel like shlain has a pretty common knowledge debate going on in this chapter a lot of people have pointed out the same issues she describes about the bible being incredibly sexist. I dont think mainstream people take the bible literally today because its kind of ridiculous to think that women's sole purpose is to support men. Womens role in society is whatever she chooses. I think a lot of times women are stuck supporting men because they cant get themselves together, but its also the other way around too. Its just a choice people make some women devote their lives to only wanting to find a husband get married and have a family to take care of and other women have aspirations to actually live their lives for themselves and not to serve other people, yes this sometimes includes a husband and a family but her sole purpose is not to exist for them.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that Shlain has common knowledge in not only this chapter but many other chapters as well. As many of you think as well I think that the bible can interpret many different meanings, that can translate into people telling differen't information to people. Some of the things he pointed out made me realize that I would'nt have thought otherwise, but through all of it you have to watch who is explaining the bible because you can get the wrong impression of something that should be totally thought of the other way.
ReplyDeleteI will have to agree myself that the rights of women these days have been altered in the past. Whether it was from the days of the bible or not. I think it is one thing to remember that many different countries still have women as being second class citizens, and not as high of priority as the men. The United States is one of the few that actually have equal rights for women. Like Clinton said, we still are not allowed to have women priests, and that is one thing that women still don't have the right to do. I think it even goes beyond that. I think that having a woman as president would also cause global tension. Simply because all of the countries that still don't consider women as being equal would, i think, look down on us for having a woman president. I think that those countries would lose respect for us and then who knows what would happen. Overall I do believe that there are some questionable parts in the bible about women, however I think that any society will always have restrictions on woman rights, no matter where it is.
ReplyDeleteI think the Bible is looked upon as a living document, kind of like our constitution. It can adapt and be interpreted to fit the times. It doesn't have to necessarily be taken word for word, but it can be used to reflect the way the world is run today. So, no, a handful of the stories should not be taken literally as they are a byproduct of the times in which they occurred. There are things that have hampered women and the progress of the gender as a whole from writings like the bible, but there are ways to overcome them, and they are being overcome as we go along.
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